<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]I would be very careful about letting my definitions determine anything about God or ethics (unless I clearly noted that it was a personal definition and something that was a work in process). I would be even more careful about creating an ethic or Theology that asserts itself towards others based on my definition. Again, this tends to idolatry.</font><hr></blockquote><p>I agree. It just seems like a lot of times, instead of coming to a deffinition of something, we just assume something is right because the Bible doesn't condemn it. And this is where our personal deffinitions come to play. The Puritans had the regulative principle, as do some groups today. I don't know much about it, but I believe that the principle permeated all of life. If it wasn't in the Bible, they didn't do it just to be safe. I think we should apply that to masturbation as well. <br>