Please note that I responded to Paul privately since it seemed a little off topic (though not entirely irrelevant).<br><br>Kyle - Just curious - how are expecting a male to emit seminal fluid without either intercourse or masterbation and since most Christians are uncomfortable with single people having intercourse, that only leaves masterbation. Some people may find nocturnal emission a natural experience but I don't thing the average person does - I certainly dont.<br><br>I suppose masterbation can be sexual gratification - while I am not certain of the ethic of that, my main point is that masterbation can be simply physiological relase no different than urination except a different, albeit related physical system. To say that it is not honoring to God is merely your own opinion/ethic - which for yourself, I wholly support. However, I would be cautious regarding what I affirm is honoring/dishonoring to God outside of yourself when there are not clear Biblical statements - idolatry begins to rear its ugly head when we enter these uncharted waters.<br><br>re: Jerry White<br>I see a number of obvious fallacies in Jerry's reasoning as I believe any good exegete would see. My greatest concern is the imposition of a human/cultural ethic on other people (which appears to be Jerry's goal here) rather than the calling of people to Christ and the formation of Christ in us. This leads to great bondage and, I suspect, has hurt many a young man who struggles in an area which really does not need to be a struggle if thought through and submitted to the Lord.<br><br>Agape,<br>Greg

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