Originally Posted by rstrats
Originally Posted by Pilgrim
You asked for help in demonstrating 'to consciously choose to believe things'. What HAS been given, as stated several times via Scripture and logic, that all choices to believe something is, of necessity, a conscious decision.

And yet no one so far has demonstrated such an ability.
Huh? scratch1 It has been demonstrated that all human beings consciously believe what they do from Scripture and logic.


Originally Posted by rstrats
Originally Posted by Pilgrim
We here hold that the Bible is the sole and final authority in all matters pertaining to faith and life.

I have no idea what that has to do with this OP.
Huh? scratch1 Since Scripture speaks to the issue of "believing" and since the Scriptures are the final and sole authority on the subject of believing, it seems obvious that it has everything to do with the subject.


Originally Posted by rstrats
At any rate, it's apparent that all I'm going to get here is a bunch of grief so I shall be moving on and you can close this topic.
Did you consciously believe that all you are going to here here is a bunch of grief? Or, did that belief just create itself apart from your consciousness and you have no idea why you believe that and you have no ability to not believe that? shrug

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