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1) Can a Catholic be saved? When I said that Catholics are under a curse by relying on works of the law, he says that Catholics do not rely on works of the law, but the grace of God alone, because (i) sacraments are not works but the means of God's grace as faith is, and (ii) they confer grace on you as a gift, and are not done by you. Now I understand that Catholics believe that the priest acts "in persona Christi" and that Christ is the author of the sacraments. So why then are they a work? 1. No Roman Catholic can be saved IF they rely on ANYTHING other than the atoning work of Jesus Christ ALONE. If they co-mingle their alleged faith/trust, e.g., Christ PLUS the Church, baptism, Mary, good works, etc., then salvation is not secured. Paul's epistles to Galatians and Romans makes that indisputably clear. There are quite a number of articles found HERE which address this subject. See, for example, Michael Horton's article, What Keeps Us Apart? and John Calvin's article, Antidote to the Sixth Session of the Council of Trent on the Doctrine of Justification (1547). 2. The "Council of Trent", one of the official and authoritative documents of the RCC explicitly states that anyone who holds that salvation is by faith ALONE is "anathema", i.e., salvation is only obtained by having faith PLUS...! Of course, the same can be said for Protestants, sects and cults. Modern semi-Pelagianism/Arminianism makes faith a work which effects an alleged universal grace given to all. See my article By Grace ALONE?. Why do the church fathers promote such things as baptismal regeneration (including Augustine, which I have read with my own eyes) and the real presence, and yet we still accept them as Christians, and derive so much of our doctrine from them? Indeed I must apply myself to study church history (which can't happen in a day!), but until I make more significant progress ... Is there a correlation between what we believe and what the fathers believed? 1. Aside from the inspired, infallible and inerrant written Word, the Bible, no author is infallible. Many of the Church Fathers held to error. The real question, as I've briefly mentioned above, is faith resting on Christ mixed with anything else in order to be saved? Augustine was not guilty of such, despite his falling into such errors as baptismal regeneration. As to Augustine embracing the RCC's doctrine of the Eucharist, this has been myriad times shown to be false. The term "real presence" can be easily misconstrued and is often used to mean different things. Calvin believed in the "real presence" as did all the Reformers and Puritans. But this is a decidedly different thing than "transubstantiation" (Roman) or "consubstantiation" (Lutheran). You can find relevant articles dealing with this subject HERE. 
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