faith is the only independent variable that matters,

there are those who died and were not baptized who were saved,

there are those who got baptized and did not have faith who were not saved.

a non-believer should be baptized when converted I agree with that.....and those are the examples in the Bible, the Bible does not declare only adults can be baptized does it? that's your own standard!


but at what age can you be trusted to believe and be baptized and how, oh righteous one, do you determine that age...when you can drive? or vote? where does the Bible state this?

The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent, Augustine