Originally Posted by Tom
Hitch

Now I am confused, was not the topic of conversation persecution by the RCC?
Specially persecution involving owning/reading the scriptures
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Yes the RCC does believe in papal infallibility, but it no longer comes out in the form of persecution in the manner it once did.
I believe however, that in order to make valid arguments against such doctrines, we should at least properly represent it.
Papal infallibility basically is the notion that the RCC allows the office of the Pope to be the ruling agent in deciding the beliefs of the Church.
That is the point Tom . Now when those beliefs, condoned by the pope, include the burning of Tyndale, beneath the umbrella of infallibility, there is a problem.
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These pronouncements by the pope are known as solemn papal definitions or ex cathedral teachings. This does not mean that the pope is except from the liability of sin.
If Pope Infallible X says burn Tyndale it is by definition the will of God and can be niether sin nor mistake, correct? That Pope Infalliable did not personally give the order makes no difference. If this action was wrong,in the eyes of God, then Pope Infallible X sinned, but more importantly infallibilty is shown for the fraud it is. Yes?
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There are many great articles on the Highway that touch on this subject, such as here and here .

These articles deal with very important subjects and show the heretical teaching of the RCC on these matters.
You seemed to accuse me of distracting away from the guilt of the RCC, yet I assure you that I am definitely not distracting away from their guilt in many areas. But, what I said before stands.
Of course we have plenty of our own troubles but we have nothing that compares with papal/church infallibility. We have a far easier time admitting mistakes.
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I find that when man has power, they often misuse it and sometimes it comes in the form of persecution. But this is not something that is unique to the RCC; it is something that is common within all depraved man.
Unfortunately it even comes out from time to time within true believers, who allow sinful thoughts to come to fruition in their actions.

Tom

Last edited by Hitch; Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:37 AM.